Comments on: Op-Ed: Does Vigilante Justice Help or Hinder? https://liisbeth.com/op-ed-does-vigilante-justice-help-or-hinder/ ยค Field Notes for Feminist Entrepreneurs Tue, 03 Jul 2018 21:21:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Barry Martin https://liisbeth.com/op-ed-does-vigilante-justice-help-or-hinder/#comment-201 Tue, 03 Jul 2018 21:21:53 +0000 https://www.liisbeth.com/?p=4999#comment-201 Agreed. People who knowingly benefit at the expense of others should get the treatment and/or punishment they deserve. But: 1. People should be careful how they handle their pitchforks. 2. And maybe professional media can balance the returns they derive from sensational happenings by including people caught in the periphery in the story.

]]> By: Lai-King Hum https://liisbeth.com/op-ed-does-vigilante-justice-help-or-hinder/#comment-200 Wed, 27 Jun 2018 14:30:49 +0000 https://www.liisbeth.com/?p=4999#comment-200 I agree with Valerie that this is very hard situation. In my work as an employment lawyer, I have dealt with this situation from all sides (representing women, men, transgendered individuals, etc, employers, conducting investigations — all angles), and in every situation I like to think that ultimately, there should be a sense of proportion: if the person who is the victim(s) has been egregiously harmed, or the conduct was egregious, then the consequences should be much greater (ie termination for cause) than situations where the victim has been offended but not assaulted or otherwise seriously harmed, and there is acceptance of misconduct on the part of the harasser.

Each case is a little different, and each case demands consideration of all factors. Norman Hardie’s case, if the allegations are true, strikes me to be at the higher end, as there was apparently a pattern of sexual misconduct including advances and harassment, and there was a great deal of fear of speaking out. There does not seem to be any allegation of assault though? The response has been very swift: ostracization as a supplier of wines, stripped of an award, reputation completely ruined…. with ripple effects to everyone in the industry. I don’t know if any of us, outside of those directly involved and if any investigation ensues, will ever know if the consequences of his conduct are proportionate as we may never know what he actually did.

But Valerie is right: there are consequences to people in the industry that makes everything very difficult.

Warm regards,

Lai

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